Talk:Foreign relations of Hamas

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"Support for Hamas"

In its current form, this page violates WP:NOR for presenting a list of countries that allegedly support Hamas, for reasons that include voting against a resolution that condemned the Palestinian group in the United Nations General Assembly. Even though the page cites multiple sources about the UNGA votes, these sources do not state they were motivated by support of these countries for Hamas. It is possible that a country could oppose such resolution for other reasons, like maintaining neutrality in the conflict (the final version of the resolution condemned violence in general, but not a particular party to the war). It doesn't look like the sources provided by the article are able to prove that specific countries support or oppose Hamas. Alex98 (talk) 22:31, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

I agree. I tagged the article with three concerns over the subject. Hamas does have foreign relations but a lot of this article contains more about the war in 2023. It can include about the wars between Hamas and Israel in 2008-2009, 2012, and 2014. This article may not be notable outright as well. UN Watch which is cited at least a dozen times is not a reliable source due to its bias in favor of Israel. The article needs to be fixed. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 20:40, 15 December 2023 (UTC)

Agree. Also Twitter not a great source for that kind of thing. BobFromBrockley (talk) 16:23, 18 December 2023 (UTC)

Alex98, BobFromBrockley, would you both be opposed to removing a majority of the information that has nothing to do with foreign relations like all these UN votes about the 2023 war? I'll take the task of doing so. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 19:30, 25 December 2023 (UTC)

I think that would be a good idea. The table with the UN votes does not belong in this page. Alex98 (talk) 20:55, 26 December 2023 (UTC)

I've gone ahead and only kept all former and current relations. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 22:31, 28 December 2023 (UTC)

It certainly looks better now. However, I believe this article should have the form of text rather than tables. Many of these countries have a history of complex relations with Hamas, that shifted from support to opposition through time, and summarizing all the information as "supported Hamas" in the "status" column might be a bit reductive. Alex98 (talk) 01:23, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Done. Removed the tables but kept all the information that was in there. --WikiCleanerMan (talk) 03:50, 29 December 2023 (UTC)

Thanks! BobFromBrockley (talk) 10:31, 30 December 2023 (UTC)

This feels biased

In the Israeli support section, it says “Islamists appeared to be more interested in studying the Quran than fighting Israel when Israel first came into contact with them in Gaza in the 1970s and 1980s.” This just feels biased and untrue, it doesn’t even have a citation. It just slanders the islamists and it just feels out of place, like in conspiracytheorypedia. Datawikiperson (talk) 08:38, 15 May 2025 (UTC)

Hi Datawikiperson! The second source for that paragraph has this quote: "When Israel first encountered Islamists in Gaza in the 1970s and '80s, they seemed focused on studying the Quran, not on confrontation with Israel." So it is properly sourced and not something a wikipedia editor made up. Lova Falk (talk) 12:09, 25 July 2025 (UTC)

Extended-confirmed-protected edit request on 14 July 2025

2603:8001:C4F0:44A0:C3E:365:BE28:F800 (talk) 03:15, 24 July 2025 (UTC)

Saudi Arabia and Hamas's relationship had broken off mainly after the 2nd intifada. Saudi would fund Hamas with at least millions of dollars until Hamas had ally with Iran fully. Saudi felt betrayed so they switched position and broke ties with Hamas.

 Not done: it's not clear what changes you want to be made. Please mention the specific changes in a "change X to Y" format and provide a reliable source if appropriate. Day Creature (talk) 04:36, 24 July 2025 (UTC)