Talk:Jesús Menéndez
Add topicJesús Menéndez is currently a World history good article nominee. Nominated by — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello at 22:25, 10 September 2026 (UTC) An editor has indicated a willingness to review this article in accordance with the good article criteria and will decide whether or not to list it as a good article. Comments are welcome from any editor. When complete, this review will be closed by the reviewer. To view the review and add comments, click discuss review. |
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| On 2 September 2026, it was proposed that this article be moved from Jesús Menéndez Larrondo to Jesús Menéndez. The result of the discussion was moved. |
Requested move 2 September 2026
[edit]- The following is a closed discussion of a requested move. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section on the talk page. Editors desiring to contest the closing decision should consider a move review after discussing it on the closer's talk page. No further edits should be made to this discussion.
The result of the move request was: moved. Editors agreed that the politician is the primary topic. The place title is changed to Jesús Menéndez, Cuba per WP:PLACEDAB. (closed by non-admin page mover) squawk7700 (talk) 22:18, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
– While Jesús Menéndez's full name is Jesús Menéndez Larrondo, he is most commonly known as Jesús Menéndez in Spanish and English sources, both inside and outside of Cuba (see article references). In my research, I have yet to encounter him being referred to by his full name. For this reason, I believe that someone looking for the article about him is unlikely to search for his full name. The current page for Jesús Menéndez is the municipality in Cuba that is named after this labor leader, because he is considered a national hero. As such, he is the WP:PRIMARYTOPIC. I propose moving this article for the labor leader to Jesús Menéndez and then moving the municipality article to Jesús Menéndez (Cuba), which would match the convention used on Spanish wiki: es:Jesús Menéndez (Cuba). — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 19:26, 2 September 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. Squawk7700 (talk) 20:47, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Relisting comment: I've just formally added the second proposed move that was specified in the nom per WP:NOTOTHERPAGES so that the other article can be notified. This restarts the 7-day discussion time clock. Best, Squawk7700 (talk) 20:47, 3 September 2026 (UTC)
- Comment On en.wiki, the naming convention at WP:PLACEDAB prefers a comma in this case: Jesús Menéndez, Cuba. 162 etc. (talk) 01:11, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Oh you are right. I'm absolutely fine with that, of course. (Should I modify the move request, or leave as-is for now?) — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 01:16, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- Comment This article was in fact at Jesús Menéndez, Cuba until an undiscussed move in 2013. 162 etc. (talk) 01:11, 4 September 2026 (UTC)
- It was a non-controversial move, as it was the only page with that name and dab was not needed. FromCzech (talk) 11:43, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Move to Jesús Menéndez, Cuba per above.--Ortizesp (talk) 15:31, 8 September 2026 (UTC)
- Move Jesús Menéndez Larrondo → Jesús Menéndez and move Jesús Menéndez → Jesús Menéndez, Cuba per suggestions above. Update hatnote at the new Jesús Menéndez page to point to Jesús Menéndez, Cuba. —Myceteae🍄🟫 (talk) 21:42, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- Great point about the hatnote! I've gone ahead and added that hatnote (as I don't think that's a controversial thing for me to do?) — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 22:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- I think it's fine. Not strictly necessary pre-move but reasonable now, and this proposal appears likely to succeed. The {{family name hatnote}} still serves a purpose as long as the full name
Jesús Menéndez Larrondo
remains in the lead, and since readers may encounter this name in other sources, so you may want to restore that. Nice work on the article, by the way :) —Myceteae🍄🟫 (talk) 22:10, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
- I think it's fine. Not strictly necessary pre-move but reasonable now, and this proposal appears likely to succeed. The {{family name hatnote}} still serves a purpose as long as the full name
- Great point about the hatnote! I've gone ahead and added that hatnote (as I don't think that's a controversial thing for me to do?) — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 22:05, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
Did you know nomination
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- ... that after Jesús Menéndez (pictured) was unanimously reelected to lead the Cuban sugar workers' union in 1947, the government declared the election illegal and seized his offices?
- Source: NYT:
"The offices of the Federation of Sugar Workers, headed by a Communist, Jesus Menendez, were taken over by the police today... The Ministry of Labor recently ruled that Communist officials of the federation had been illegally elected"
And in A History of Organized Labor in Cuba by Robert Alexander:"Jesus was unanimously reelected secretary general... Police seized FNTA offices..."
(page 115)
— Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 22:55, 5 September 2026 (UTC).
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Overall:
Article was created on 2 September 2026 and is 1,774 words (11,217 characters) in length. It is fully-sourced, neutral and free from plagiarism (per Earwig results). The hook is cited and interesting, although I think there might be more interesting potential hooks within this article (e.g. the government holding a separate "official" congress, the stuff about his assassination and revenge, etc.). The public domain status of the image isn't 100% clear. QPQ is done. Recommend nailing down the details about the photograph and adding an alt hook or two. Feel free to ping me when these are done. Grnrchst (talk) 09:24, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- Thank you for the review! Good point about the picture. It was published widely in Cuban newspapers after his assassination, so I'll add that info to the image today. Also, I'll think of some alt hooks as well & post those soon. — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 14:05, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- @Grnrchst: I've updated the image on Commons to include description and links to editions of Noticias de Hoy (daily Cuban newspaper) that published this photograph at least twice on the front cover in 1948. Also, here are some alt hooks below. I tried to think of a way to include Che in there somehow, but I struggled with the wording.
- ALT1 ... that the army officer who assassinated Jesús Menéndez (pictured) was later caught and executed by Cuban rebels after he tried to sneak away from a battle, dressed as a civilian? (supported by: )
- ALT2 ... that Jesús Menéndez (pictured) was unanimously reelected to lead the sugar union, but the government held their own "official" congress to elect an anti-communist instead? (same source as ALT0 above)
- I like ALT1 the most. What do you think? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:45, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
Issue with photograph's PD rationale has been clarified. Approve all hooks, with no strong preference as to which. --Grnrchst (talk) 16:04, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
- I like ALT1 the most. What do you think? — Chao Garden 🌱 ~ say hello 15:45, 9 September 2026 (UTC)
GA review
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Nominator: Chao Garden (talk · contribs) 22:25, 10 September 2026 (UTC)
Reviewer: Simongraham (talk · contribs) 09:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
This looks an interesting article. I will review it as part of the Developing Countries WikiContest, the Organized Labour editathon and in fulfilment of a pledge. I look forward to diving into this. simongraham (talk) 09:40, 24 September 2026 (UTC)
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