Talk:Korean Sign Language
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[edit]Anyone know why it's dated to 1889? That's well before the Japanese occupation. — kwami (talk) 02:49, 20 March 2011 (UTC)
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Korean Sign Language → South Korean Sign Language – Wanted to clear it here first, but unless this article is going to go over both the North and South Korean Sign languages, the title should probably be changed to specifically refer to South Korea. Arctic Circle System (talk) 03:01, 11 September 2026 (UTC) — Relisting. –Maltazarian ᚾparleyinvestigateᛅ 09:10, 18 September 2026 (UTC)
- Mmmmmm perhaps both North Korean Sign Language and this page should be renamed to something else, based on WP:COMMONNAME?
- Surely the North Korean system is not officially called "North Korean Sign Language", nor is this system officially called "South Korean Sign Language". I'm loathe to invent new terminology; if we do make this move we shouldn't present it as if they're proper nouns, should just be "North Korean sign language" and "South Korean sign language".
- Perhaps both should be called "Korean Sign Language" but have a disambiguator, like "Korean Sign Language (North Korean)" and "Korean Sign Language (South Korean)".
- All of this is contingent on COMMONNAME research though. grapesurgeon (talk) 03:05, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with this logic. Based on reading each article, but without further research, it appears both articles may be at their correct common names. If so, the hatnote on this article pointing to North Korean Sign Language might be all that is necessary. Station1 (talk) 05:57, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Correct common name of what though? Correct common name of the sign language of South Korea specifically, or correct common name of a theoretical sign language associated with the whole of Korea? North and South Korean Sign Language have been separate languages for decades since sometime after 1945. The name "Korean Sign Language" only applies to the pre-1945 language and the broader grouping of the two. Arctic Circle System (talk) 08:20, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- You might be correct; I have no special knowledge of this topic. So all I'm saying is, reading through both articles, it sounds like there are currently two languages, one called, in English, "Korean Sign Language" and the other called "North Korean Sign Language". If the articles are correct, no title change is needed. If the articles are incorrect, they need to be partly rewritten, with citations, not just have a title change. Looking at a few of the articles' refs, I see some further evidence that this language is commonly known as "Korean Sign Language". I also see some evidence for "North Korean Sign Language" I don't see any evidence for anything called "South Korean Sign Language". Station1 (talk) 17:41, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Again, the "Korean Sign Language" you're referring to is only used in South Korea. It is not a broader Korean sign language at this point, only of the south. And there are records of the name "South Korean Sign Language" as well used when referring to it, especially when discussing it in reference to NKSL. https://doi.org/10.7877/jasl.29.3_51 Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:19, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- We agree that the "Korean Sign Language" referred to here is used only in the south. Station1 (talk) 01:21, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- And this is precisely the problem with referring to it in such a way. Arctic Circle System (talk) 19:19, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- We agree that the "Korean Sign Language" referred to here is used only in the south. Station1 (talk) 01:21, 12 September 2026 (UTC)
- Again, the "Korean Sign Language" you're referring to is only used in South Korea. It is not a broader Korean sign language at this point, only of the south. And there are records of the name "South Korean Sign Language" as well used when referring to it, especially when discussing it in reference to NKSL. https://doi.org/10.7877/jasl.29.3_51 Arctic Circle System (talk) 23:19, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- You might be correct; I have no special knowledge of this topic. So all I'm saying is, reading through both articles, it sounds like there are currently two languages, one called, in English, "Korean Sign Language" and the other called "North Korean Sign Language". If the articles are correct, no title change is needed. If the articles are incorrect, they need to be partly rewritten, with citations, not just have a title change. Looking at a few of the articles' refs, I see some further evidence that this language is commonly known as "Korean Sign Language". I also see some evidence for "North Korean Sign Language" I don't see any evidence for anything called "South Korean Sign Language". Station1 (talk) 17:41, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- Correct common name of what though? Correct common name of the sign language of South Korea specifically, or correct common name of a theoretical sign language associated with the whole of Korea? North and South Korean Sign Language have been separate languages for decades since sometime after 1945. The name "Korean Sign Language" only applies to the pre-1945 language and the broader grouping of the two. Arctic Circle System (talk) 08:20, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
- I agree with this logic. Based on reading each article, but without further research, it appears both articles may be at their correct common names. If so, the hatnote on this article pointing to North Korean Sign Language might be all that is necessary. Station1 (talk) 05:57, 11 September 2026 (UTC)
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