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[edit]Hello, Mclay1,
Good day to you! It's unclear to me when categories go through speedy renaming and are then empty, can Category:20th-century television commercials and Category:21st-century television commercials be tagged for C1 deletion now?
If you could look into these two categories and make a verdict, it would be very helpful. Many thanks! Liz Read! Talk! 19:58, 2 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Liz: Hi. They hadn't been renamed yet when you left your message but they have now, so the categories are now at the correct names and the old names have been deleted. All the contents had already migrated to the new names because they were being populated by a template. Mclay1 (talk) 06:18, 3 June 2026 (UTC)
Replying to your note
[edit]Thanks for getting in touch. I absolutely agree with what you're saying - under normal circumstances. However these were not normal circumstances. Normal circumstances would be when someone has written or contributed to a page or category and then, after it has been created, someone else decides to nominate the piece for deletion. Yes. In those circumstances we do not interrupt the process of discussion. Absolutely correct. However, the circumstance which made this particular case different was very clear.
The nomination for deletion did not take place after the creation of the category but during the creation of the category.
If you start to write something and then change your mind on the same day and decide not to go ahead, you delete the aborted article or category.
It would be a completely absurd bit of bureaucracy to preserve something which you were just beginning to write once you had changed your mind.
Of course, if someone else wants to create an identical category for their own amusement and then to discuss deleting it again, that would be entirely their own business. Do you not see the absurdity of forcing a half created thing to continue existing in its half created state when no-one has any interest in it?
That kind of nonsense is what gives bureaucrats a bad name in the first place.
Whether the deletion discussion was posted before or after my decision to abandon the category and reverse my edits is highly debatable (but I would choose not to).
Wikipedia does, in fact, have provision for speedy changes when there is an unusual situation or, as in this case, an obvious absurdity.
Thanks again. wayland (talk) 23:34, 4 June 2026 (UTC)
- @Wayland: The CfD started before you changed your mind, but either way, it's only a seven-day process, so it's not really absurd to just wait for it to play out. Alternatively, WP:G7 speedy deletion would have applied. Either way, it doesn't need to be depopulated before it's deleted – that's the only issue, because it makes judging the category more difficult as the former contents don't show up in the category's page history. Mclay1 (talk) 06:55, 5 June 2026 (UTC)
Category:Eating of humans has been nominated for deletion
[edit]Category:Eating of humans has been nominated for deletion. A discussion is taking place to decide whether it complies with the categorization guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at the category's entry on the categories for discussion page. Thank you. ᴢxᴄᴠʙɴᴍ (ᴛ) 14:25, 8 July 2026 (UTC)